So let me get this right, you want to charge people a license fee so they can create mirrors to copyrighted works automatically? Because lets face it, that's what SceneDDL and all those other sites do.
While I have my own eyepatch, skull and crossbones flag and peg leg I just still see this (albeit loosely) as profiting from piracy or the scene.
While it was not intended to be used soley for such a purpose, Edrad would likely serve to do nothing but enable the theft of intellectual property at the expense of the hard work of others (mainly "the scene"). Thus the additional development of the applications Edrad and Raptuli will be used to benefit SceneDDL exclusively. There will be no public release of either of these applications in the forseeable future.
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I fully agree with the original commenter. You've done the right thing.
Oh damn, was looking forward to it, but yeah, you're doing the right thing!
Sad, cos it could be very interesting to watch the source and learn from it. You're a good programmer (otherwise you couldn't code this nice piece of application).
In my opinion it's okay to publish your work, but don't sell it - as you then earn on the scene. But of cause that's easy for me to say - I'm just a shitty programmer which want a piece of the cake.
Keep up your work
As long as it won't affect the outcome of the website
Also I would love to see more sites like SDDL provided that each one of them is specialized in one area (TV , moviez, appz ... etc) especially HD stuff
Also, am I the only one who misses UJ
please find an alternative to UJ since it stop working
You can make a limited distribution of it
So we can benefit of similar sites like SDDL
fuck em leechers.
scene > yall
Too bad. I had hoped to maybe use it to power a blog type front end for a nonprofit (no ads, server paid by donations) sharing forum. I would have gladly paid as long as the fee was reasonable. And, I wouldn't have thought of it as you profiting from the scene. I think it's fair to be compensated for the work you put into the code. On our end, we only try to collect enough donations to keep it going. Any extra money is put into the forum...nothing is kept. But, oh well. :)
erm, i came across a site that uploads to multiple hosts.. might want to consider?
http://www.gazup.com/
Jay I agree, Keep SceneDDL origional :)
If any1 wants a site like this they can make one and spend 2 years developing.
Or ,you can always be kind enough and share the "applications" that make SceneDLL so everyone can use them, that's what would benefit the community , after all your website is about distributing copyrighted material , if you are that cool "sharing" others people copyrighted material you should be also fine sharing your hard work "applications" that make SceneDll work.
If you believe that it's ok to share others "hard work" and you are not fine to share yours, specially when what you would be sharing would not conflict with your pockets money (obviously scenedll isn't a business that makes money ..) then you are just a hypocrite my friend.
Alex, clearly you misunderstood, which would mean you haven't the slightest clue about what I was talking about, which means shush.
By "hard work" I wasn't referring to the applications and music developed by multi-billion dollar industries, I was referring to that of the crackers and rippers who release such things for no personal monetary gain.
So kindly tell me how not charging to allow other people to profit from their work constitute hypocrisy?
I understood everything you said just fine, regarding what you said on the current post and regarding what you said on your first post when you introduced your "Pay for my software" idea.
As i already explained
Since you where fine to let others use your software IF they would pay a price for it (you obviously wouldn't have a problem to see clones of SceneDLL if those clone sites payed a fee to you) , now that you changed your mind and you are NOT going to do that because you "respect" the scene, you should at least be fine to share it for free ,under a license so everyone can use it and maybe modify it aswell , thats something that would certainly HELP the scene and i am pretty sure the guys that do all the releases would appreciate it ;).
Could you please explain to me why you are not going to release SceneDll to the community even if that doesn't involve you getting money?
As i said , the big mistake that you made was to want to share your work for a fee but now that you are not going to get that fee , to keep everything to yourself.
You made what you made for the SceneDll on the first place , all you have/had to do is to make a .rar of your sourcecode , add some kind of OpenSource license to it and ask your "server" to upload it :) , specially the last part is something you do every day ;).
I'm failing to see the correlation between helping the scene and publishing software that enables mass unapproved distribution of their work.
SceneDDL is here as an example to others. If you want to make something like it it should be because you have the ability to do it yourself, not because you downloaded a Piracy2Go package.
For example, if the makers of the TorrentBits tracker hadn't released the source then I've no doubt there wouldn't be the staggering amount of Torrent trackers that there are today.
But the point IS to have multiple trackers / websites , it would be way easier for "them" to get down a single tracker/website than as it is right now where the situation is uncontrollable, they are hundreds of websites that do what SceneDLL does , just manually.
You said "If you want to make something like it it should be because you have the ability to do it yourself" , you might wanna consider to add "or pay me the license for it". ,ince you where planing to sell your applications.So , what is it ? Only people with the knowledge to code should be able to have something like "it" or it is fine as well if they would pay?
I am asking that because you obviously didn't change your mind because you wanted to keep the uniqueness of SceneDLL ...
Anyway , there is no point to continue this conversation , you either don't have your mind straight or you just fail to admit that you are looking somehow to make a profit from what you do.
Whatever you decide to do, and whatever your reasons might be for doing that (regarding the future of SceneDLL etc) , a big thanks for your effort .
And btw , from my point of view , i don't see anything difficult for someone with the basic knowledge of programing (or better intermediate knowledge) to create an application that automatically looks for specific releases , downloads them via torrent and then uploads them on various sites . Yea i know it's easy for me to say it than actually proving it (i do code myself) but oh well you will have to stick with my word.
You could apply that definition to anything. There are hundreds of millions of pens and pads of paper that do what photoshop does, only manually.
SceneDDL will always be unique. It was the first of it's kind, and may very well be the last. Notwithstanding that, I'd love to know how you got to the conclusion that we're making profit.
I haven't said that you are currently making profit , i am sure that you are having a hard time to keep with the bills for the server.
What i said is that when there was a profit to be gained from selling the applications that make SceneDDL you where going to do that , now that there is no profit for you to make from it you are no more interested to share the applications that make SceneDDL , am i missing something ? Wasn't exactly that you where planing to do ?
I Agree with Alex in a way. You don't loose anything by sharing the source code. But I also respect your decision.
Just a comment to this: "And btw , from my point of view , i don't see anything difficult for someone with the basic knowledge of programing (or better intermediate knowledge) to create an application that automatically looks for specific releases , downloads them via torrent and then uploads them on various sites"
Yeah I could code that too, but it's not everyone which have access to the Scene releases.
By the way - No needs to flame Alex, I don't think he meant it to provoke you.
keep p2p noobs scene free, pls
Oh,That's why I can't find you in the scene.
- If you were a member of the scene, you defiantly wouldn't use this piece of application!
Cant you see him ? He is standing next to you :)
sinister!
He definitely stand in my blind angle
Why on earth would I use my scene alias here? doofus.
I'm not talking about you Jay... But Anonymous at 11 May 2009 17:43
Jay , how about if you suck it up and shhhh ???
Damn, I wanted this for my personal use. Can you rethink. I don't mind paying. Pretty please? LOL
I don't want to go to Odesk and have someone build a similar one for me. Don't make do it. I rather not deal with that hassle if I don't have to.
@Jay you have a scene handle?? LOL
and you needed to make some app to work with torrentflux to download things, not from torrents like all this n00bs think, but from USENET?? ROFL
you must be really low inside the scene to have to download from USENET... no FXP'ing for you i guess...
so nice to see that the internet is full of skilled ignorants...
i hope you're wearing your troll killing vest jay
So its okay for you to share movies and apllications created by hardworking people for free but not your own script. Ironic aint it?
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